Delphi 2009 is Here!
Today we announced Delphi 2009 and C++Builder 2009. This is a pretty big day around here, as this release represents a big step forward. There has been a lot of work put into this release, and a lot of testing, too. Moving to Unicode and getting all the VCL and IDE features done and tested to a high level of quality has taken a big effort here, and I’m really proud of everyone on the team for pulling together and getting the job done.
You can read the press release here.
Delphi 2009 is ready to order today — right this very minute! If you are in the Benelux region, you can order from Dr. Bob.
For more information:
Data Sheet
Feature Matrix
FAQ
Top Reasons to Buy
Top Reasons to Upgrade
Third party components compatible with Delphi and C++Builder 2009
Case Study
If you are an Enterprise customer in particular, you might want to take a look at moving up to Architect. The new native Architect SKU provide some amazing database design and development features. Give it a look. Heck, even a Professional Edition user might find it interesting.
We are planning all kinds of events, webinars, etc., in the coming days and weeks. I’ll be traveling to Australia and Japan next week to do launch events, and I’ll be at the Software Developers Network conference in Amsterdam again this year.
So, don’t be the last guy on your block to get your copy of Delphi 2009. Order today!
Great news Nick!.
BTW: please, update the CodeGear.com frontpage, it still features RAD Studio 2007.
Leonardo.
August 25th, 2008 at 6:54 amHi Nick,
Great job. Is there a features matrix comparison of the different levels (pro, architect,enterprise) we can see?
August 25th, 2008 at 6:59 amWhere do we in the UK go to find our price ? The main shop site linked about just tells me the software is not available in my region, and the uk version of the shop only has D2007.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:03 amWhere do we in the UK go to find our price ? The main shop site linked about just tells me the software is not available in my region, and the uk version of the shop only has D2007. Also do you have a link for comparision between SKUs (feature matrix) ?
Thanks.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:04 amSo, when does it actually *ship*? The store calls it a pre-order, but I can’t look at the product page to see if there’s more info there (I’m not in the right region, and the Nordic store isn’t updated yet), and I couldn’t find anything on the main Delphi page. Granted, I’m on Software Assurance, so I wouldn’t be going through the store anyway, but I assume it’s released there at more or less the same time vs. release for SA contract holders.
I’ve got an update to one of my programs just about ready (finishing it off tonight), but if D2009 is released soon enough, I’m going to wait for the upgrade. Hence, an ETA would be nice, so I don’t end up holding it back for several weeks.
August 25th, 2008 at 7:07 amCongrats to all the Embarcadero crew for releasing their ‘first’ Delphi under the new flag!
August 25th, 2008 at 7:08 amLong awaited Unicode-enabled Delphi, at last! Congratulations!!!
(Though still waiting for the Turbo for personal home usage).
August 25th, 2008 at 7:36 amQuestion - the feature matrix implies that the Pro versions have only local access to databases, even Interbase and MySQL. Previously, in D2007, the pro version supported client/server access to IB and MySQL, but not higher-priced DBs like Oracle and MS Sql Server.
Does this mean that the Pro version is now somehow RESTRICTED from using say, IBX components to access IB (or Firebird)? Or just that it isn’t supported? I can live with not supported, but if this feature that was previously available was TAKEN AWAY, that should be pointed out.
Also, our (started in Delphi 1) app still uses the BDE with SQL Links drivers to get to Firebird. I know this is no longer supported, but is it still possible?
And most important - we signed up for "Software Assurance". when D2007 came out. There was no upgrade by the time that ran out, but we knew this was coming so we signed up AGAIN (which means we’re paying much more than the normal upgrade price for this upgrade).
My question is, are SA customers going to get this BEFORE it’s available to new buyers this time, or at least at the same time? Or are we going to be waiting longer and getting it later than everyone else again in exchange for paying much more?
August 25th, 2008 at 7:42 amAs usual, CodeGear don’t want my money. I’m standing here, in South Africa, credit card in hand, wanting to complete an online purchase like I do with my MSDN subscription, DevExpress subscription and numerous other software products and services, but "One of the products you selected has been excluded from purchase in your country" and no relevant online store (which take you to an outdated local site anyway).
Come on! The regionalised sales network you have used for years didn’t work well then and is still losing you money now. Why can I just give you my payment details and receive a download link?!!!!
When will the crack be available?
August 25th, 2008 at 8:05 amAs usual, CodeGear want my money. I’m standing here, in Germany, credit card in hand, comparing european prices with american prices and being shocked!
On average the european prices are 1.6 times more expensive than the US-ones (calculated with the current exchange-rate of 1.48)
E.g. the Enterprise SKU is nearly $1200 more expensive.
For me it looks like they are modern pirates.
August 25th, 2008 at 9:39 amNick,
You may want to review that Feature Matrix in a little more depth. There’s a whole series of items that say "Added in 2006!" I sort of doubt that’s the kind of marketing you want to do for Delphi 2009.
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August 25th, 2008 at 9:56 am@Michael Madsen: Ship date is probably not that far off — a couple weeks to a month tops, would be my guess. I think that this was generally the case with past releases.
August 25th, 2008 at 10:02 amThere is support for PostgreSQL in delphi 2009?
August 25th, 2008 at 10:17 am@Anthony Frazier: That sounds completely likely, but because it’s that very period, that just makes me wish even more for a more precise date. I can quite easily delay my update a week, maybe even two - and I will if Delphi 2009 is out by then, since it would be an advantage to me to ensure Unicode compatibility in my source code at this point in time - but a month is too long to wait.
August 25th, 2008 at 10:24 amHi,
Are you planning to provide a "turbo explorer" version of Delphi 2009?
Thanks,
August 25th, 2008 at 10:44 amPlease remove all those "Added in 2006!", "Added in 2007!" from the feature matrix, looks they was left there by a lazy writer
And, sorry, you’re always a Oracle version behind. I hoped to see Oracle 11g support (it was released a year ago), but I didn’t see it. That’s why we can’t rely on dbExpress, driver development is always too slow.
We got Unicode, generics and closures, at least…
August 25th, 2008 at 10:48 am@Summers: AFAIK the Pro version was always limited to local connections *using dbExpress*. You can always use ADO or third party controls (IBExpress, Zeos, etc.) which have no limits.
I am more impressed remote debugging is not supported in the Pro, I can’t think is an "enterprise" feature to check while your program crashed on another machine without installing the whole IDE there. Or the Pro version is only for application running on the local machine?
And in these years every american company selling in Europe likes to look at us as cash cows. That’s why we have euro prices even for our american customers.
August 25th, 2008 at 10:54 amAs I see you excluded Remote Debugging from the Professional edition of D2009…
August 25th, 2008 at 11:10 amAnd yes, why just not a normal order process used everywhere on the web? Let users enter their credit card details and get their download link everywhere in the world!?
August 25th, 2008 at 11:18 amMy Credit Card is waiting for D2009 now :p
August 25th, 2008 at 11:19 amHi Nick,
August 25th, 2008 at 11:54 amWill Delphi 2009 and/or C++ Builder 2009 Install without issues (for either IDE) side by side with a full install of Visual Studio 2008 Professional SP1 and SQL server 2008 Express?
Extreme prices……..
August 25th, 2008 at 12:21 pmCongrats on the new release!
August 25th, 2008 at 1:19 pmSo when is the actual shipping date?
August 25th, 2008 at 1:22 pmUSD/EUR rate ???
August 25th, 2008 at 2:35 pmCan I do a bulk purchase in the USA and export the technology to the EU ?
非常高兴,希望尽快出稳定版本,我们准备购买正版.
August 25th, 2008 at 6:59 pmHi,
August 25th, 2008 at 11:09 pmI’m surpressed, about functionality and…prices!
Please spend your marketing chief a course "exchange rates: what they are and how to use it".
Here an overview of update prices
US: Pro $ 374, Enterpr $ 1.274 A: $2274
DE: in EUR415 1.427 2393
Congratulations! It’s very significant occasion for all Delphi programmers.
August 25th, 2008 at 11:13 pmUnicode support and resource manager is mostly wanted, wonderful features.
Could you tell me, whether Delphi 2009 supports unicode console, or not (paramstr(), read(), write(), etc)?
Delphi 2009 preorder
We’re Sorry.
August 25th, 2008 at 11:58 pmOne of the products you selected has been excluded from purchase in your country.
Please use your browser’s "Back" button, and select a different product.
Error Number: 30053012 - 0
!!!!
????
Unfortunately, exchange rates for US companies, apply only when the foreign currency is weaker than USD….
August 26th, 2008 at 12:09 amYes, Embarcadero doesn’t want my money, either. No way I’m going to pay that price with current Euro rate against USD.
August 26th, 2008 at 12:12 amFWIW: just about anything is significantly more expensive in Europe than in the US. This isn’t just a CodeGear or US companies thing. It’s rather frustrating, but I think some people are overreacting a bit. Note that both the euro prices and the dollar/euro exchange rate weren’t radically different at D2007 release time.
August 26th, 2008 at 12:45 amCan’t wait for C++ Builder 2009, looking arround for the just new unicode support!
Still will have to wait for x64 support, but anyone, seems that C++ Builder is being advancing quickly since sometime ago, so no fear to find it abandoned, as was suposed to happen after version 6.
August 26th, 2008 at 1:01 amHere’s my money. Here’s the internet connection. That’s all is needed. Why would I even need a local reseller? For support? What support? Newsgroups/forums/google is enough. And, btw, not every country in Europe has wages => than in USA.
August 26th, 2008 at 1:03 amAnd you wonder why the rate of piracy is higher in europe than the U.S. I will pay the rip off price, because frankly I don’t have a choice. But to all those out there who pirate it good luck! Oh and btw I suggest you take the ‘report piracy’ links off your pages in the U.K. how many peopele do you think care if you get ripped off? Laugh now, believe me you’ll pay later!
August 26th, 2008 at 2:01 amWhat the heck is going on with the pricing on the online store for the U.K. at 11am this morning, we were looking at pricing in euros, now we’re in pounds sterling. Why bother with all this regional reseller and currency adjustment rubbish. Why not just charge the world in U.S. dollars, most people are going to pay with a credit or debit card anyway and the currency conversion is automatic.
August 26th, 2008 at 3:52 amthis time i refuse to pay the ridiculous high prices from the german reseller. so no unicode and generics for me…
August 26th, 2008 at 4:51 amHi, I’m crazy Bob (www.drbob42.com) from the Netherlands and all customers in the Benelux have no choice but to pay the outrages prices I’m charging them. Thank you very much!
August 26th, 2008 at 5:37 amRip-off Britain striking back?
August 26th, 2008 at 5:51 amYou know what,I’ve looked again at wether I actually need Delphi 2009, and would suggest everybody else in the UK do the same. There are free versions of TNT Unicode around and DIUnicode is cheap to license and is pretty full featured. Lets face Codegear/Embarcawhatever aren’t evil they’ll just charge whatever they can. If we’re stupid enough to pay it we only have ourselves to blame!
August 26th, 2008 at 6:18 am@crazy bob
if you were referring to my post - thank you for your irony.
but i was talking about the _german_ reseller.
Your prices (VAT?)
€ 324 Pro Up
€ 1.174 Ent Up
Their prices (w.VAT)
€ 415,00 Pro Up
€ 1.427,00 Ent Up
see a difference?
your’s lower even if your prices are stated without VAT.
i understand everybody has to live - and charge for work.
August 26th, 2008 at 6:26 amBut here there are two profit margin: weak dollar & additional charge? No thank you very much!
Sell using ebay and PayPal!
August 26th, 2008 at 6:39 amI would also like it, if ONLY CodeGear sells Delphi.
See the the new user price of D’09 on german online-shops:
http://shop.better-office.de/product_info.php/products_id/367
–> 2990 €
http://www.edv-buchversand.de/product.php?cat0=750000016&idx0=6&cat1=750000049&idx1=12&gr=software&cnt=product&id=bor924&lng=0
–> 3700 €
700 € price difference (who cares of the 10 €, when he is buying such a expensive development software.)
And if the Shops and CodeGear don’t agree that only CG should sell Delphi, then they should discuss/find a new common price. - like Microsoft Hardware, the HW costs the price on the whole world, because MS gives the price.
Btw, how much will the Online Shops earn.
The CG Shop takes 3474 $ = 2354,18 €
So the common Price for the re-sellers should be (in my opinion):
3,600 US Dollar = 2,439.57 Euro (–> this to 2440 € or 2500 €)
And we want to forget the method. - Download or DVD:
The price should also remain the same.
With Download you should get a link to the software (in case if you lost the data), which is valid 24 hours and also a Key-Backup system.
With the DVD you don’t have to care because you get a little paper with the serial.
Sry if I wrote to much.
greets
August 26th, 2008 at 7:29 amStudent, the 700 euro price difference is tax. Maybe codegears should force all shops to quote net prices only?
August 26th, 2008 at 10:12 amNo, the price includes the tax.
August 26th, 2008 at 11:37 amI’m a "Turbo Delphi" fan, in past
But I don’t have money for Delphi. I can’t pay. It’s very expensive.
I don’t need new VCL, new IDE and other new fucking mega-features. I need only modern compiler, which always follow new technologies. That’s all. I think time has come to leave Delphi and switch to other freeware tools (while the going is good). Am i right, guys? Any body here, yet?
It’s hard to sell projects compiled in Delphi, because of dumping of low costs of projects based on free tools. And i have to say that next generations of developers already did choice. This choice, unfortunately is not a Delphi.
Delphi is dead. Who are not agree with me?
August 26th, 2008 at 12:41 pm@ZD: yes, you’re right when you say you need a different tool. Delphi has been since version 1 a compiler + IDE + VCL. That combination made it great. If you just need a simple editor and a compiler, Delphi is not for you. If it is too large for you, it does mean it is dead.
August 26th, 2008 at 1:33 pmPeople like us working on complex applications need a powerful IDE and a powerful VCL. And we are ready to pay for them. What we aren’t ready for is to pay a free tool for you, sorry.
Next time you need a PC go to your computer store and ask for a free PC, "hey, I do not need the case, keyboard, the monitor and the disks, just the latest motherboard, processor and video card for free!" - and tell us what they say you…
Does no one here make money from the apps they build with Delphi? I’m suprised at the amount of bitching about the price.
August 26th, 2008 at 1:48 pm@Howes: although I can understand that Delphi looks (and is) expensive in Europe (and it always was), saying "There are free versions of TNT Unicode around…" etc. etc. is a nonsense. Or an application is Unicode from top to bottom, or the risk that a string get trashed is always present. And one would be forced to a small subset of Delphi controls and libraries. If you can live with it why not? but it’s not a real alternative.
August 26th, 2008 at 1:56 pmThat said, I too think that CodeGear should look for a better way of selling its software abroad, especially now it’s so easy to check prices. Anyway, MS prices are not so different. For example a simple check (Amazon and PCWare) VS2008 Pro + MSDN $1084/€1225(+VAT), Team System Dev $5225/€5613(+VAT).
Face it: US companies are happy to sell their software in Europe today.
@Matthew: I don’t see a problem with the price too. Even though it would be euros for me :-). It’s exactly equal to what upgrading to D2007 was. If you need unicode it seems like a no brainer to me.
August 26th, 2008 at 2:09 pm@Matthew
I think if you actually read most of the comments. You’ll find the bulk of the complaints are about the DIFFERENCE in price between different countries. And yes I know the typical response to that is ‘all companies do it’. FAIR ENOUGH, they charge what they can get away with in each territory. The entries on this blog are making clear though that enough is enough. I don’t have a problem with paying a fair price for a product that delivers, but why should I pay a premium just because I live in Europe. A few more pounds for a media pack to be sent to a smaller market in the UK is OK, but it doesn’t cost any more to allow a product to be downloaded here than it does in the U.S.
August 26th, 2008 at 2:15 pmWhat exactly does "pre-order" mean? Can I actually do the download after I present payment?
August 26th, 2008 at 2:52 pmScott –
"pre-order" means you can order now, and will get the product the second the product ships.
Tiburon hasn’t been quite released to manufacturing yet. It’ll be real soon now(tm).
Nick
August 26th, 2008 at 3:04 pm@ZD - we have Free Pascal & Lazarus
August 26th, 2008 at 9:37 pm@Kent Morwath >Delphi is not for you. If it is too large for you, it does mean it is dead.
Yes, it’s large for me.
@Matthew Says >Does no one here make money from the apps they build with Delphi? I’m suprised at the amount of bitching about the price.
My software targets to local market (english versions is not available), for home users. They prefer the cracked versions (it is mentality) or freeware with similar functionality. My users do not make money with software.
Some of them prefer my project because of enhanced features and they paid to me.
Let’s calculate:
August 26th, 2008 at 9:42 pmMy price for one copy: 9$ (It’s good price for licensed CD with games, multimedia and other kind of software in shops in my country). After one year i have 114 registered users:
114*9=1026$ if to subtract taxes, payments for hosting and other related payments - remains no more than 500-600$
(Do not laugh, approximately 50$-80$ per month - it is not bad addition to my monthly salary)
Nick,
Does the upgrade value for the Professional edition apply to Turbo Professional owners also?
August 26th, 2008 at 9:42 pm@HardOrc
TFrame is not present in Lazarus yet. In my software paradigm i used frames very often.
I love Delphi, but CG does not give a choice: They say "bugger off" to all users of turbo line.
August 26th, 2008 at 10:23 pm@Johnnix:
Yes it does (copied-pasted from the FAQ below)
Who qualifies for the upgrade pricing on Delphi 2009?
Professional Upgrade – owners of any previous Professional edition of CodeGear RAD Studio, Borland Developer Studio,
Delphi, Kylix, C++Builder, Turbo Delphi or Turbo C++
Enterprise Upgrade – owners of any previous Enterprise or Professional edition of CodeGear RAD Studio, Borland
Developer Studio, Delphi, C++Builder, Kylix, Turbo Delphi or Turbo C++
Architect Upgrade – owners of any previous Architect or Enterprise edition of CodeGear RAD Studio, Borland Developer
August 26th, 2008 at 10:24 pmStudio, Delphi, C++Builder, or Kylix
@ZD: Turbo Delphi was a dream…
@Nick: What about Delphi Personal? In the past You spoke in "non tech" newsgroup somethings about personal version…
August 26th, 2008 at 10:50 pm@Giel #32
August 26th, 2008 at 11:15 pmYes, prices are a thing of CG. Who else fixes it?
And yes, the exchange rate may be (nearly) the same when Delphi2007 appeared.
An yes, I didn’t bought Delphi2007.
It’s great there is a new delphi version, upgrade prices are fair but…
In the Netherlands we are forced to use the services of Bob Swart (aka crazy Dr.Bob), a one man shop charging us 30% extra. Why? This middle man doesn’t provide any worthwhile additional services and it gives me the feeling I’m a second class customer. I don’t care about him, get rid of him!
August 26th, 2008 at 11:38 pm@ZD:
I also can’t afford it, but ask some online-shops for the price for pupil, students, teachers, unemployed ans pensioners. (if you are one of this.)
And so I got my Delphi 2007 for only 110 €.
If your are living in the USA, you’ll definitely such shops.
And the students in the USA get MS Office Ultimate for only 60 $, I got my Enterprise Version for 120 €.
Please mail me on about_blank@live.at (Please no Spam, that I have to delete) , I want to tell you more about that. (and something other) - only if you want
greets
August 27th, 2008 at 12:23 am@Second class customer: It’s not Bob that charges extra; he has the same prices as Codegear has on their European stores. The only difference is that you place the order on a different site, really.
The issue of the price difference has been discussed quite a bit already, so I’m not going to repeat all of that (only state that I do agree).
August 27th, 2008 at 1:51 am@Student
>price for pupil, students, teachers, unemployed ans pensioners
I’m not one of them. I’m a professional developer with many years experience and i use Delphi5 every day (licenced to IT division of my enterprise many years ago).
>If your are living in the USA
August 27th, 2008 at 2:04 amNo. I’m from Russia. Away from Moscow and St.Petersburg - average monthly salary for experienced developers in my area is 700$-800$ and it’s not a joke.
After Turbo has been released, i try to start up shareware project (only russian language available at this time). I hoped to translate it to many languages with unicode and to buy the Turbo Professional 2009… But my dreams was broken
>And so I got my Delphi 2007 for only 110 €.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:25 amI think the licence agreement was broken
@Michael Madsen: I know it’s not Bob Swart who decides what price to charge but he claims to provide “useful” services, like solving installation problems, and pockets the price difference. I never needed the ‘service’ of local resellers and I don’t want to start supporting the middle men. So I will call my family in North America to get my copy. One world, one price!
August 27th, 2008 at 3:45 amWtf!
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Please use your browser’s "Back" button, and select a different product.
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August 27th, 2008 at 4:57 am—————————
@Second class customer
What happens if you try and activate a US copy of Delphi in the U.K./E.U. is there anything to stop activation that you know of?
August 27th, 2008 at 5:39 am@all who complain about the different prices:
Did ANYONE consider that the actual currency rate may not be as fixed as all of you are assuming? The prices of all the countries are fixed prices, and I think they will not change, even if 1 dollar one day equals 1 EUR again. The currency rates do not equal real "purchase power" (hope I found the right expression…) in all the different countries of the world.
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index
for an example that is easy to understand
Another point, talking about prices, are the costs of competitive products. Why do you let VS 2008 make this part of the race? Not so easy to understand for me …
Except for that, even with different resellers, all of them could be linked together in the same online store - this would technically be possible, and a company that develops tools for web development also should have the know-how to do so …
August 27th, 2008 at 9:03 amPrice is ok, no complaints about that. There is only thing about the download version: why don’t you permit all of us (outside usa) buying the download version? We all have internet and credit cards - if we need the media version, we’ll buy it at our local stores/resellers.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:08 amI don’t get the fact, you’re trying to force the media version outside the u.s. - heck its 2008 and you would get a bigger and faster community if you allow buying download versions right from the shop site!!! Regards, Dennis
International Delphi comunnity is very disapointed for the licence prices outside USA.
Embarcadero must recheck wich will be that politic in the future.
And yes,. lazarus is growing very fast. The main reason is delphi disappointed users about linux strategy (like me) are contributing hard to lazarus+FPC. Now is possible to release server app, in the short time will be possible deliver client app.
Bets regards.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:09 amJohnnix –
Yes, you can upgrade from Turbo Professional to Delphi 2009.
And please do.
Nick
August 27th, 2008 at 10:25 amNick,
I have enterprise software assurance. What is the cost to upgrade to Architect?
August 27th, 2008 at 11:14 amI have the money no problem even if I will be paying for a single personality.
August 27th, 2008 at 7:54 pmAlso
I think the lack of news groups is bad marketing. There is no way to ask others about their impresion with the new Delphi.
Does Delphi 2009 console application support unicode (paramstr(), read(), write(), etc)?
August 27th, 2008 at 11:13 pm>One world, one price!
I do not agree.
Price should be based on big mac index! (or similar parameter)
http://www.oanda.com/products/bigmac/bigmac.shtml
August 28th, 2008 at 1:57 am>Price should be based on big mac index
What a nice way to benefit from a stronger currency. For Europe purchasing power is calculated to 1.06 (according to your link). 1 lt (0.2641721 gallon) of gasoline costs aprox. 1.20 Euros so 1.20 * 1.06 = 1.27 USD… is it really so?
August 28th, 2008 at 2:41 amLook at "Valuation against the dollar, %" in the table
Euro area +56%
Russia -32%
South Africa -39%
I don’t know about "Euro area +56%", but for "Russia -32%" is adequate percent
August 28th, 2008 at 4:52 am@johnnix:
This is NOT the way an international market works. International Trade works based on currency rates, but the average income of people in the United States for example did not grow by 50 percent in the time when the exchange rate for 1 Euro grew from 1 Dollar to 1,50 dollar.
Prices in all countries depend on the buying power (or one will sell less goods …) - european companies at the moment suffer very much from that fact, especially those who sell many of their goods to customers in the united states or to asia.
August 28th, 2008 at 5:58 amMr. G –
Our newsgroups have moved. They can now be found at:
https://forums.codegear.com
Note that you can access them either via the web or via an NNTP newsreader.
Nick
August 28th, 2008 at 8:01 amWhat’s this? A comment I entered yesterday has disappeared today?
Let’s try again…
Visual Studio 2008 Express C# and C++. Price? Free.
Can you compete against that?
August 28th, 2008 at 9:55 am"Visual Studio 2008 Express C# and C++. Price? Free.
Can you compete against that?"
And why should they? Can you develop the software you need with them? Can you develop as fast?
August 28th, 2008 at 10:52 amWhy not?
Yes!
Yes!
August 28th, 2008 at 10:57 amMS Sells Windows, and imo MS could care less about C++/C# etc, I see them only as a way to keep developers on it’s platform
August 28th, 2008 at 11:05 amplease change this page, which is referring to the old newsgroups:
http://info.borland.com/newsgroups/ng_delphi.html
August 29th, 2008 at 6:18 amI cannot order from the USA site as other South Africans discovered. The local reseller, who responded quickly to my request for a quote, quoted a price of US$ 499 for what I saw for $374 on the USA site. Must still figure out the VAT situation. Might as well then stick to Borland Dev Studio 2006 and look for other tools.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:01 amNow let’s just hope that 64-bit Delphi will not take more than one year from now.
September 1st, 2008 at 8:30 amThe help-functionality got worse with every release. Why add more functionality when the help to describe it is missing (at least in a practical sense). The D2009 features mention no improvement of the help, so I will NOT upgrade. Delphi more and more is becoming a niche product for some foolish die-hards… I know, because I am one of them (and getting to old for this).
September 1st, 2008 at 9:21 amEstamos interessados na versão atualizada, visto estamos projetando migração de nossos sistemas DOS para windows ou Linux
Obrigado
Adolfo
September 6th, 2008 at 6:50 amI agree with the following comments above:
* buying on-line with one price for the world is a given in 2008 (unless you please explain why retain the archaic reseller network)
* help system used to be one of the best parts of Delphi, and it recent years it was gradually getting more and more messy (as of Delphi 2005, I prefer Google over Delphi’s own help, which, should also be published on-line with regular googleable updates)
* I will upgrade whether or not I get a guarantee Delphi 2009 will break my projects, just to support the Embaracadabra enterprise and see how it steers into the future
best wishes for the entire Delphi team of genius developers
Vote Obama!
September 8th, 2008 at 6:19 pmI still got my own Delphi Versions at home, but i miss the Delphi Standard Version which i used to. I never needed the Database Development for my private use. My newest version is now a Delphi 2005 Personal from PC Pro UK.
I think you should reintroduce ‘Delphi 2009 Standard’ for Home/Shareware Developers. I would pay for it the normal price of 99€/99$ or similar, since i think this is it worth. I haven’t all the money to buy a professional version with Database development
And i don’t want anything for free. I’m willing to pay for it. I think its in mind for some more old Delphi Developers here to get a cheaper version for starting with a cool language.
So this is my wish. I hope you can do something about it. Mail me if you got something in mind.
Thanks for reading.
Sincerly Torsten / murphy
FYI: I got Delphi 1, Delphi 2, Delphi 3, Delphi 5, Delphi 6, Delphi 7, Delphi 2005
September 9th, 2008 at 3:30 amI still got my own Delphi Versions at home, but i miss the Delphi Standard Version which i used to. I never needed the Database Development for my private use. My newest version is now a Delphi 2005 Personal from PC Pro UK - June 2005.
I think you should reintroduce ‘Delphi 2009 Standard’ for Home/Shareware Developers. I would pay for it the normal price of 99€/99$ or similar, since i think this is it worth. I haven’t all the money to buy a professional version with Database development
And i don’t want anything for free. I’m willing to pay for it. I think its in mind for some more old Delphi Developers here to get a cheaper version for starting with a cool language.
So this is my wish. I hope you can do something about it. Mail me if you got something in mind.
Thanks for reading.
Sincerly Torsten / murphy
FYI: I got Delphi 1, Delphi 2, Delphi 3, Delphi 5, Delphi 6, Delphi 7, Delphi 2005
September 9th, 2008 at 3:31 amWith Delphi 2007 + all service packs being the next Delphi that almost works after Delphi 7 (to murphy: Delphi 2005! Your troubles understood…) I guess people should complain not about the price, but about the money back.
I do not think Delphi is dead, it just has no future without the continuation of the Turbo line. And, after what has already been demonstrated by now RIP CodeGear, this line should not just be revitalized, it should be guaranteed to last in a way that sticks at court.
To all people who complain about the lack of the remote database connectivity in some versions and so on: time to do the real work with real tools. Use Delphi to do the GUI.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:45 ami just tryed D2009 Architech Trial, it seems really a cool product.
But wath about Delphi for DotNet future?
bst rgds
September 12th, 2008 at 2:01 amivan
Hi Nick,
I just have a delphi 2009 pro version my friend brought from Australia. I am in China and delphi 2009 is yet available in China. My question is:
Can i use this delphi 2009 in china legally?
Looking forward to your answer.
Best Regards,
Luke
September 20th, 2008 at 11:06 pmGuess what?
I emailed codegear official distributor in australia asking him if the software i bought in australia can be used in china, the answer is definitely yes and no extra charges.
Then I asked codegear china distributor the same question, the answer is that codegear has restrict policy that i have to pay region transfer fees before I can use the software. I asked them to point out which terms in delphi EULA for this transfer fees, they said it is just the company policy!
What’s wrong with codegear on this? Anyone here can clarify this? please?!
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:17 pmGreat. Another version of the IDE that can’t handle custom DPIs (like 144). Just like Delphi 8, 2005, 2006 and 2007…
Guess I’ll stick with Delphi 7 (who handled it just fine) and Visual Studio. Someone at CodeGear is bound to buy a hi-res LCD eventually…
September 26th, 2008 at 2:30 pmWe just ordered about 15 copies of Delphi 2007, too bad they don’t offer a free upgrade if you have bought within the last 90 days like they used to do.
Can you help Nick???????????????????????
September 28th, 2008 at 7:21 amIn reply to 96. I have the same questions. When I read the Delphi licenses term, the region seems to means only America, ECU, and Asia/Pacific Region. So according to the terms, it should be legal to use Delphi 2009 in China if it is brought in Australia.
Unfortunately, if you use it in China. Those legal officers (I think is legal sub-contractor getting commission by pushing you to buy the product) will call you and threat you that you are using illegal software. When you explain to them that this is in the licenses term, they just don’t care and keep saying this is "company" policy.
I have been suffering this problem for Delphi 5 for the past 8 years and I thought it will be better in CodeGear or in Embarcadro. Unfortunately, nothing change.
I have been trying to buy Delphi 2009 professional in China, I got all kind of crazy answer. One told me that the Professional version is not offer in China, another told me that I have to get 5 copies in one bundle.
Delphi able to handle unicode is what I have been waiting for for years. But it is really upsetting… So till today, I couldn’t get a single copy of 2009. I am going to give up…
February 8th, 2009 at 2:08 am